Where To Buy Bulk Organic Grains For Your Stockpile

6 thoughts on “Where To Buy Bulk Organic Grains For Your Stockpile”

1. I don’t understand why someone stockpiling food, presumably for the purposes of surviving a “the perfect storm” would require their grains to be organic.

   I think it illustrates peoples complete misunderstanding of just how difficult things could become. It would be like choosing to die of thirst instead of drinking bottled tap water because it may contain fluoride. People facing real disasters have resorted to eating human flesh and drinking urine. The debatable but miniscule benefit of eating organic grain is going to be revealed as a drop in the ocean compared to real problems.

   Respectfully submitted and open to discussion.

   1. “It would be like choosing to die of thirst instead of drinking bottled tap water because it may contain fluoride.”

      Hi Dave. My take on it is different from yours. I don’t think the author is saying, “WTSHTF, I must have organic.” I think her perspective is similar to mine: why not store the best quality food I can right now?

      For my part, I believe the benefit to organic foods is more than “debatable but miniscule”. I’m a vegetarian and I eat organic as much as possible now. If things fall apart, I would fully expect to change my diet. But now, when high-quality, pesticide, locally-grown food is readily available, that’s what I’m choosing for my diet and my storage.

      There’s also a possibility that pesticides considered safe (ha) now might be deemed unsafe five years from now. If that’s what I’ve stored, then that food is potentially harmful and I’ve wasted resources. I’d rather not take that chance when I have the option to store food I believe is safe and nutritious.

      Respectfully submitted and open to discussion as well. 🙂

      1. Thanks for the response. I have found that the more plainly I express my opinion, the more likely an honest opinion is returned. And honest discussion leads to learning.

         Here is my point; if there some sort of societal collapse, the benefits of organic food will have no bearing on your quality or length of life. The lack of a modern hospitals and their proven life sustaining medicine will be what ends your life. Or the violence brought on by the control of gangs and war-lords. Or the invasion of a foreign country. Or the lack of heat in the winter etc.

         If you are preparing for perhaps a one or two month disaster before society recovers, again, one or two months or organic food vs factory prepared oats for example will not make a difference.

         I do support your right to choose what you eat. I suspect that lowering my red meat intake, as my Doctor has suggested, would be very good for me. Pesticides, in my opinion present a double edged sword. Properly managed, along with the introduction of genetically modified foods, we are able to provide much more food for the 7 billion people on earth. Eat a GMO banana with trace amounts of pesticide or have no banana? I guess I would rather have a non-GMO banana without pesticides but are there enough to go around?

         It reminds me of cartoon I saw with two cave-men sitting around discussing why they have only a 40 year life-span. They eat organic, sleep at night, get plenty of exercise etc. The reality is, in spite of our societies negatives, we are still ahead. What is shortening the next generation’s life span is obesity and the lack of exercise. Not GMO’s. Pesticides? You may have a point there.

         Here is another thing that I see leading people to make poor choices. People have confused their right to decide and to have an opinion with truth. Just because you believe GMO’s or vaccines are harmful it doesn’t make those beliefs true. Should people be free to choose not to get a vaccine because they believe they are bad? Perhaps. What if that choice harms others?

         What should be more important to people is the truth and what can be demonstrated as the best informed choice. An opinion can be wrong if it is based purely on fact; when a person doesn’t have all the facts.

         Do you believe that the world would be better of without GMO’s and pesticides? And if you do, why?

2. I do think the world would be better off without GMOs and pesticides. Mostly because they *aren’t* being properly managed. Companies like Monsanto aren’t interested in feeding the world. They are interested in the most profit in the shortest amount of time. I’m all for making a profit but not at the expense of the entire world. Companies like that don’t think long-term. They don’t take the time to think through all the potential problems. And we don’t know the unknown problems. We don’t know what we don’t know – and companies who are for profit over everything don’t consider that. Look at the huge honeybee problem. It seems to be connected to overuse of pesticides and GMOs – we aren’t sure but that’s as much a reason to discontinue them – we can’t rule them out as the cause of the honeybee die-off so we should stop until we are sure. If we lose honeybees, we might as well start making Soylent Green – our food supply will be devastated.

   Mostly I think of GMOs and all the other short-term plans to produce more food are like the mongoose in Hawaii. They were imported in the late 1800s to take care of the rat problem in the sugar cane fields. Except they didn’t only eat rats. They’ve wiped out species and made others nearly extinct. And they carry leptospirosis. All because the importers didn’t think long term.

   I believe that organic and non-GMOs *are* better all the way around. And when I buy these foods for my current diet and my stockpile, I have even more opportunities to vote with my dollars.

   1. You make some excellent points. I agree that many corporations are profit driven with a heavy emphasis on short or maybe mid-term gain. If something bad happens in 20 years its “somebody else’s” problem. If I get rich at least I will be okay. These are very irresponsible attitudes.
      I still think science is our best way forward, even if there are some negatives. Nothing is perfect. But our exchange has given me a new perspective on watching how science is being used or misused.
      I still think that stockpiling organic grain in preparation for a societal collapse is the equivalent or preparing for war by making sure your buttons are polished. If the world collapsed, truly collapsed, and someone offered you a bowl of porridge, asking if it was organic would be the most irrelevant question you could ask. If you are planning to eat a healthy meal or responsibly sustain agriculture in the long-term, the question is valid.

   2. “If we lose honeybees, we might as well start making Soylent Green -”

      “Native bees are an unappreciated treasure, with 4,000 species from tiny Perdita to large carpenter bees, they can be found anywhere in North America where flowers bloom. Most people don’t realize that there were no honey bees in America until the white settlers brought hives from Europe. These resourceful insects promptly managed to escape domestication, forming swarms and setting up housekeeping in hollow trees, other cavities or even exposed to the elements just as they had been doing in their native lands. Native pollinators, in particular bees, had been doing all the pollination in this continent before the arrival of that import from the Old World. They continue to do a great deal of it, especially when it comes to native plants.”

      Source; http://www.bugguide.net/node/view/475348

      Ask someone locally that keeps and is knowledgable about bees, or plants, it is surprising how different North America was 100, 150, 200 or more years ago. People from 200+ years ago would not recognize many of the flora we take for granted today…

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